re: Jane Fonda visiting BR this weekend Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:43 am to Chipand2Putts. I sang a song. But Hardly misdirected anger, Jane Fonda really was merely a silly and shallow child of privilege who allowed herself to be used for propaganda. She said: I have very few regrets. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. She said that she regretted it. There's no statute of limitations on it. She went to Hanoi that year to tour villages, cities and infrastructure. A series of photos of her sitting at an NVA anti-aircraft battery earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane and the undying spite of Vietnam veterans everywhere. There were also rumors she turned over secret messages from POWs to their captors. Her suit was later settled for a reported $20 million. Among the products sold expressing veterans' disdain for Fonda are a variety of bumper stickers, envelope stickers, sew-on patches, but evidently D&G no longer carries my favorite Fonda item, a urinal pad depicting Jane Fonda's photograph. So I ask, should she have been put on trial for treason? All of the facts, in retrospect, lead to the conclusion that the U.S. government's purpose in dragging America into Korea was not to defeat communism but to kill as many Americans as possible in an ignoble defeat, get rid of the hero MacArthur as a possible presidential nominee, and lure a disillusioned America into acceptance of one world government. The media heaped calumny on U.S. military leadership; presented biased, horrifying scenes depicting "the wanton killing of Vietnamese civilians", and the "degeneracy" of our fighting men and women. _taboola.push({ She called our president, according to this report, "a new type of Hitler," pilots "war criminals.". And number three: you've got the propaganda broadcasts themselves, where she substitutes for Hanoi Hannah, who broadcasts to the American troops all the time. Jane, now 84, is I don't want people putting words into my mouth, saying "you're going to tell us all these bankers and financiers are Jewish", for instance. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. Fifty years later, he bears witness again. This "police action" quickly developed into a full-blown but undeclared war. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. The "advisors" assisted inept South Vietnamese in their ongoing war against the North Vietnamese, who also happened to be communists. The POWs are beaten. Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. She sided with the Viet Cong as revolutionary liberators. And she travelled to Hanoi at a time when North Vietnamese soldiers were killing Americans. A young photographer took this harrowing image of the Vietnam War. Jane Fonda was on 3 times this week talking about her new book. She has reportedly been shopping a tell-all book this year. Coffee houses. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. However, you may note that the Left still presumes to lecture the rest of us often concerning foreign policy on a regular basis. Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. Us veterans will never forget or forgive her posing on a North Viet anti-aircraft gun, regardless whatever else she may or may not have done. It is always distressing to find American citizens who benefit from the protection and assistance of this government lending their voice in any way to governments such as the Democratic Republic of Vietnam distressing indeed, said State Department spokesman Charles W. Bray, according to a July 1972 Reuters story. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, Have a tip we should know? It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that it is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese Thats what made me laugh. I believe Jane Fonda has talked to at least two historians. She has said that she regrets doing this. Troop D, 1st squadron, 4th Cavalry, RVN, 1966-7 We have no right to attack that country. quote: Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. And, you know, I think they thought, Oh, shes this white privilege rich, famous daughter of all of that stuff. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. And therein lies the difference. Lets break down her remarks. Troop B, 2nd squadron, 17th Cavalry, RVN, 1969-70 Did we lie about the body that we planted on Omaha Beach (search), trying to convince the Germans that we were going to land somewhere else? Im not you know, they all went to jail. Jane didnt make her infamous and idiotic trip to Hanoi until 1972. COLMES: She did say that she was sorry. GRUMMETT: Don't worry about it, you know? He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. Now, I can't judge her heart but it's a different manifestation of Christianity than John Paul II (search). In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines.. And heres Cat Ballou, the beautiful daughter of Young Abe Lincoln, of Mister Roberts, beaming down from a machine designed to kill them. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. Number two: You've got the POW meeting, where she sits down and holds a press conference for propaganda purposes with these prisoners of war. War materiel, shipped via the Look it, there were clandestine operations conducted in every war. Thats all the ground troops were going home. But look, you have more to talk to us about something you're going to show us. Joe? I think that there is a lot of selectivity going on. Laurie Dhue was a familiar presence on Fox in the early 2000s but left the network in 2008. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. But it wasnt untilshe traveled to Hanoi in July 1972 that she really enraged criticsand fundamentally altered how the world viewed her for decades to come. Many Americans disapproved of Fondas comments Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. officers, toward the Chinese border amid cries of protest from Wall Street which feared war with "our trading partner" Red China. In it, she apologizes once again for insulting the men and women who fought in Vietnam. Andrea Tantaros, former co-host of "The Five," filed a lawsuit saying that Fox News operated like a "sex-fueled, Playboy-Mansion-like cult.". I said that the POWs claiming torture were liars, hypocrites, and pawns. As in Korea, communist spies within the U.S. government released vital information to the enemy. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How are you, G.I. She apologized for being on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun site. He was Americas most famous pediatrician. The cover called her Ms. She said: I have very few regrets. YOU'VE REACHED YOUR MONTHLY ARTICLE LIMIT. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. I dont know what else to do. Fonda traveled to Hanoi, Vietnam, to protest the Vietnam War, but she did not do most of the things the post claims. That's an apology. So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. NORTH: The real story about Vietnam. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. It was my mistake, and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it. Jane Fonda was always an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War. Many Americans traveled to Vietnam on peace delegations to end the war, yet it was Jane Fonda who was captured as a timeless image when she was photographed looking through a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun. Kiran Chetry was a Fox News host from 2001 to 2007. Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. I have great, great children, talented, smart, and I just didnt know how to do it. WebJane Fonda & TheVietnam War. : Yes, that one story was true. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. Since the dawn of the Internet and a spate of anti-Fonda websites, there have been many fabrications and exaggerations regarding her actions, but her photo ops and press conferences to "give aid and comfort to the enemy" are not and never were in question. [3] And she referred to the POW's as hypocrites and liars.[4]. One showed her applauding North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gunners. In 2015, about 50 veterans stood outside theWeinberg Center for the Arts in Frederick, Md., to protest Fondas appearance there. Credit: Bettmann Archive/Getty Images "It was a very tumultuous and polarized time," she said in the HBO documentary. Fox News has enhanced the careers of numerous women who have served as hosts. HANNITY: All right. Once U.S. forces were committed in large numbers the U.S. federal government, as in Korea, prohibited them from attacking specified enemy sanctuaries (staging areas) into which the communists retreated, regrouped, re-armed and launched renewed attacks. HANNITY: That's quite often in my case, by the way. Please, you cant let them be published. She called the POW's liars. [5]http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp; http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm; http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; cited on November 24, 2004. She is the daughter of legendary actor and WWII Naval Officer Henry Fonda. I'm not going to tell you anything of the sort. Market data provided by Factset. It is giving them the advantage of the propaganda visibility that this woman lent to them. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. HANNITY: Is Jane Fonda really sorry or just trying to sell her brand new book? ET! Do any right-wingers ever decry the fact that Bush and the conservatives overthrew Aristide because he was a socialists----then invited the Chinese Communists in to our hemisphere? If they did, can I really blame them? Denying a final victory over a dedicated and skilled marxist enemy was a recipe for the murder of our men. Meanwhile the mass media suddenly reversed its pro-war policy: denying our beleaguered troops moral support from home. True. It was to these traditional Americans, alienated by the Sixties, that the email was targeted, playing on their hopes that finally, at long last, Jane Fonda would have to answer for her choices. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. Her rebellion against the foreign policies of the United States suggested to many outraged Americans that treason might have an All-American face, a familiar accent, and be closer to home than the Other that had previously been assumed to embody the enemy. "There's no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated "press conference" with American POWs in 1972. I will never know. So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. However, the fact that she advocated Communism does not give anyone license to make up stories or slander. NORTH: These are the things that this woman did, and she has not apologized. . Respected online resources such as Snopes, Truth Miners, and Urban Legends have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. February 25, 2023 / Jack Marshall. We're trained. Now, aid and comfort can be measured a lot of ways. How did we get into this war? mode: 'thumbnails-b', She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. What most Viet-Nam veterans think about Jane Fonda is expressed in a number of products sold by D & G Enterprises, When Rockefeller said what he said about the Cultural Revolution (in an Op Ed that I read long ago, attesting to its existence), he was addressing the Communist system as a Fascist system with potential for realizing corporate/banker control much more than as a "Marxist" system. You're a great American. I plead with him, You have to be sure those photographs are not published. The Nixon Justice Department poured over the transcripts of my broadcasts trying to find a way to put me on trial for treason but they could find none. Good question here Richard: "My question is, when will people like Fonda and Kerry (unlike Joan Baez) take responsibility for what they have wrought -- the totalitarian system that gave us re-education camps and the boat people?" Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Jane Fonda: Prime Time - Walk Out (DVD, 2010) at the best online prices at eBay! Someone (I dont remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. If it wasn't I must be missing something. Quite the contrary. And that we probably couldnt win it not because they werent a fabulous soldiers. And I refused to have them scare me away from being actively against the Vietnam War. (Later, after 58,152 American dead were just names on a wall, declassified US Navy logs revealed there had been no torpedo attack!). If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. I know what its supposed to be now. The Army builds a tolerance for violence, she shouted at the crowd. Fonda was accused of engaging in war crimes on behalf of the North Vietnamese. I want you to go home and say, "I'm sorry I got caught doing the wrong thing.". Others were hoping to catch a glimpse of a famous Hollywood actress. Ms. Fonda only met with those POW's who had sold out their fellow POW's, who willingly (without torture) made propaganda statements for their captors, and who enjoyed privileges of medical care, food, and even night-time excursions into Hanoi to watch movies in return. And its about a woman who had a capacity for reinvention that, like Jay Gatsbys, was the more effective for her whole-souled belief in what she devised. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. Fondas wide-ranging response went from apologetic to defiant and everywhere in between: CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. There's no denying that she defamed POWs by whitewashing the Viet Cong's treatment of them and later calling them liars when they spoke out." I agree with TheWrap's Terms of Service and Privacy Policy and provide my consent to receive marketing communications from them. I should have been clearer that my anger back then was at the Nixon Administration. Why? They called it FTA, which they said stood for Free the Army, but it was also a not-so-subtle nod to the expression f the Army.. But the action that still enrages veterans most was that photograph of her with North Vietnamese troops onan antiaircraft gunthat would have been used to shoot down American planes. In July of 1972, she made two trips to She was a symbol of a divided nation. Then Dr. Spock attacked the Vietnam draft. Daughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. I mean, that's what you and I do with our wives when we say something that we shouldn't have said. "Flashpoint Vietnam," the real story about the road to the war. On this weeks edition of HBO Max and CNNs Whos Talking to Chris Wallace, the host covered much of that territory, including that 1972 visit. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. Her book just may not make the bestseller In 1972, the Academy Award-winning actress and activist traveled to North Vietnam and was photographed laughing and clapping along with Vietnamese soldiers. These horrendous claims went around the nation on the Internet, resulting in a great deal of anger and consternation among veterans. NORTH (voice-over): Thirty-five hundred Marines came ashore. Her attackers renewed an old strike against the image of an actress who grew up as the daughter of the All-American Henry Fonda, yet became synonymous with the various rebellions of the Sixties. Why are people more angry at Jane Fonda that they are against, say, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, the people really responsible? Megyn Kelly lit into Jane Fonda on Monday, highlighting the behavior that earned the actress the nickname Hanoi Jane while defending the time last fall when she questioned Fonda about plastic surgery. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. And I was I was like a limp noodle what I had experienced and what I had seen, I just I wasnt able to resist, they said were gonna take you out here today. I was not the kind of mother that I wished I had been to my children. And the more they tried, the more I. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. No license is granted to the user of this material except for the user's personal or internal use and, in such case, only one copy may be printed, nor shall user use any material for commercial purposes or in any fashion that may infringe upon Fox News Network, L.L.C. Fonda addresses the media in December 1972 to protest U.S. military involvement in the Vietnam War. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. Jane Fonda is a star of stage and screen whose career began in 1960. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. Fonda told Wallace that she did not like the nickname she was given, but she stuck by her choice to oppose the war. And that we probably couldnt win it not because they werent a fabulous soldiers. 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Heres what she said in 2011: In my anger at the torture story that was being allowed to spread, at how the entire situation was being manipulated, I made a mistake I deeply regret. They landed two months later on 7 May with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. Fondas transformation from actress to activist began several years earlier. She was young and famous at the time, maybe the Iraqi insurgents could get some of the present crop of empty headed celebrities, Britney Spears perhaps, to pose next to those Muslim mopes in robes and head towels while they aim their weapons. tips@mediaite.com. The 85-year-old Fonda has had a lengthy career as a Hollywood icon that includes her current turn in the film 80 For Brady, an equally long stint as an outspoken liberal, a fitness craze that began in the infancy of home video, and much more. Chris Appy, a historian who has written about Vietnam, told HNN he once asked POW Porter Halyburton about the claims made against Fonda. Nixon has responsibility for everything he did or didn't do on his watch. It may be an old story, but being that she never stood trial for her actions still make her case an open book. But the reality of it is, Alan, this is a woman,who I quite frankly feel sorry for. The Bushes have a long-standing relationship with Red China, one that has hardmed our national security, yet few attack them as vociferously as Fonda was attacked. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. In July of 1972, she made two trips to Hanoi which earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane. [1] According to a recent email that circulated to various Vietnam veterans, Fonda reportedly beat one POW, and betrayed the confidence of another, resulting in his death. If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure. She claimed she was sexually harassed by correspondent Brian Wilson and later spoke out against Fox News' culture after the Ailes scandal broke. Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. [2] Peter Collier, The Fondas; A Hollywood Dynasty. As anyone who knew or worked with me in those years knows my heart has always been with the soldiers. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the JANE FONDA: Well, I didnt like it. [1] Cited on November 24, 2004. I mean Alan, this woman was totally caught up in the age of the '60s, the rhetoric of the '60s, and quite frankly I feel sorry for her, because she's not out of it. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. Youre gonna come through it, okay. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam.